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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #840
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 26 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 840
-
- Today's Topics:
- * SpaceNews 25-Jul-94 *
- Antenna Lead Feed-Thru
- Atlas 310
- Did CB's used to require
- Did CB's used to require licenses?
- Elmers, please read
- FAQ??
- GPS Mapping software
- HTX-202 Extended Rcv (2 msgs)
- HW-101 for sale
- Mounting HT to Mountain Bike ??? (2 msgs)
- New General Pool for Autoexam
- Outgoing QSL Info Needed
- RS Freq Counter?
- U.S. op in Canada? More ?
- W1AW Code Schedule
- Why is 1750Hz tone used in Europe?
-
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-
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- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:51:30 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!icon!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: * SpaceNews 25-Jul-94 *
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > * STS-65 SAREX INFO *
- > =====================
-
- Just curious...
-
- Did anyone actually make a voice QSO with STS-65? I heard of lots of SAREX
- contacts with schools, and a few non-school Packet contacts, but none of
- us plain ol' People (FM Voice) contacts.
-
- Greg KD6KGW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 17:08:54 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!jwc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Antenna Lead Feed-Thru
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Michael P. Deignan (md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu) wrote:
- : In article <25JUL199407363636@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov>,
- : edjcb@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Brown) writes:
-
- : |> I'm building a new house and have selected a second floor location
- : |> for my shack. I'm looking for feed-thru ideas for the outside wall,
- : |> for, say, three RG-8 size and one ladder lead. I'll have 2x6 walls.
- : |> I know this has been hashed over here before, but I didn't save
- : |> the threads. Many thanks for your suggestions.
-
- : I've always found that a piece of PVC piping, 1" or so in diameter, angled
- : down at each end, ie:
-
- : Wall
- : ||
- : Outside /------\ Shack
- : ||
-
- For lightening protection I suggest using metal conduit and use 90 degree
- turn outside. Ground the conduit outside.
-
- John, N0KIC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 94 13:39:08 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Atlas 310
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- One of my friends has an order in for a 310 for many many months
- Atlas is having trouble gettting the spurs out of it's
- DDS synthesiser.....my friend is in no rush...when he gets the 310
- I hope to put on the bench and see how it works
-
- Clark Fishman WA2UNN cfishman@pica.army.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 17:12:00 -0400
- From: news.sprintlink.net!coyote.channel1.com!channel1!alan.wilensky@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Did CB's used to require
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- FA>time that I had a CB license, but I don't remember if they were
- FA>actually *required* or not. It seems like the CB bands were fairly
- FA>well-behaved (politeness-wise) at that time, but it sounds like
- FA>they are pretty chaotic now (I haven't listened since 75). This
- FA>brings up the following question:
-
- When I was about 13 yo., I had a nice Hallicrafters tube CB base. This
- must have been around '74. At that time the band sounded very much like
- 2 meters.
-
- On channels one through eight, you used a handle. On 10 through 19, I
- think, we used licensed call signs. No one I knew at that time did not
- have a real call sign. Many of these folks were older (to me) hams.
-
- I became friends with many of these people, back then, and despite the
- fact that I was only 13, they invited me to get togethers, antenna
- parties, etc.
-
- I miss that radio, It used to really 'clack', when I put the key down.
-
- FA>Why are the Ham bands more polite and well-behaved than the CB bands?
- FA>Is it
- FA>A) The Ham license requirements force people to learn rules and
- FA>require a greater commitment
- FA>B) The type of people who tend to use CB's are just "different" :)
- FA>C) The Ham's set a better example than the CB'ers.
- FA>D) The Ham's know they are accountable for their actions via their
- FA>registered licenses, so they behave.
-
- AS far as the ham bands being more polite....have you been up on 2m in
- Boston? Maybe more orderly, but certainly not polite! 440 seems much
- more civil.
-
- In my opinion, the amateur VHF bands could go the way of CB in the blink
- of an eye. But interestingly enough, there is a group of 11 meter SSB
- folks that self license, and seem to have a level of decorum not found
- on CB.
-
- Also, the bar to operation on VHF is a little higher than CB, due to
- cost. But a renegade using used gear could go unlicensed and cause
- trouble. Its very hard to find sporadic portable activity.
-
- FA>I would be interested in hearing anyone's thoughts on this. I'm not
- FA>trying to start a CB vs Ham flame war, I'm just trying to learn the
- FA>real effect of requiring licenses vs not requiring them.
-
- The VHF ham bands are very usable, and entertaining, and you get a
- chance to join various repeater clubs etc. It seems there is more glue
- in ham radio than CB.
-
- Ah, but that old Hallicrafters.....
-
- Alan Wilensky, N1SSO
- General Manager
- Interactive Workplace Division
- Vicom, LTD.
- Phone: Edmonton Office
- 11603 165 St.
- abm@world.std.com
- ---
- │ CmpQwk #UNREG│ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:40:53 -0400
- From: news1.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Did CB's used to require licenses?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <fkilpatr.775148334@afit.af.mil>, Freeman A. Kilpatri wrote:
- >
- > Why are the Ham bands more polite and well-behaved than the CB bands?
- > Is it
- > A) The Ham license requirements force people to learn rules and
- > require a greater commitment
- > B) The type of people who tend to use CB's are just "different" :)
- > C) The Ham's set a better example than the CB'ers.
- > D) The Ham's know they are accountable for their actions via their
- > registered licenses, so they behave.
- > E) ?
- >
- > I would be interested in hearing anyone's thoughts on this. I'm not
- > trying to start a CB vs Ham flame war, I'm just trying to learn the
- > real effect of requiring licenses vs not requiring them.
- > --
- > Alex Kilpatrick fkilpatr@afit.af.mil
-
- A, B, and D are probably the most accurate. It's an earned priviledge,
- not payed for by $$ but earned through technical merit, albeit the modern
- tests are easy compared to those 20 years ago. When you put effort into
- earning a priviledge (ie; sweat), you tend to respect the effort of
- others also. Besides, laying out >$1000 for a new station/antennas, etc,
- is incentive to keeping the airwaves clean. (IMHO).
-
- Andy
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 13:46:40 GMT
- From: athos.cc.bellcore.com!briscas.gamekeeper.bellcore.com!papo@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Elmers, please read
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I agree. Specially when you are learning code. I might be
- one of those lucky (?!) despicable No code techs, ex-CBers, that are
- putting their act together and learning the acient art of learning Sam's Code.
- I already went through 3 out of 4 sides of the tapes and I have a computer
- random code generator for my Amiga. After spending all this time
- learning those dit's and dahts and spending enough time
- receiving non intelligent QSO's from my computer I decided
- to venture the airwaves with my trusty SW radio. (I already knew the
- whole alphabet, numbers and most of the punctuation marks so I said,
- "What can I loose.. ") Went to 10 Meters.. nothing.. scanned up and down..
- nothing.. Hmm. went up to 15 meter.. aha! some poor soul sending code. So I
- sat down.. and copy.. and copy more letters.. and well.. I read it back
- and it did not make sense to me. Show it to my girlfriend and
- it did not make sense to her either. So I sat down and tried
- to figure out by context. Some I could make it but between my
- lack of code experience (well, maybe .. because of my lack of code
- experience) and what Greg states. Anyway.. I went through 20 meter. Well
- needless to say that I was able to pick a letter here and there but between
- the time I figured out the letter and the time to write it down, about 5
- more letters passed.
-
- But I will not give up. I have 'till the 25th of August to take the
- morse test. I do not think I'll be able to crank up to 13 WPM but you
- never know. I'll continue scanning the dial every night and copy what
- I can.
-
- I'll be listening.. (I just got my callsign last friday, I have not bought a rig
- yet.)
-
- '73
- --
- Luis Roberto Anaya papo@donuts0.bellcore.com
- A True PL/1 Hacker papo@briscas.gamekeeper.bellcore.com
- Bellcore, NJ Ham: N2ZXE
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 22:50:43 GMT
- From: cs.utexas.edu!chpc.utexas.edu!news.utdallas.edu!haga1774@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: FAQ??
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I just started reading this group, and the FAQ doesn't seem to be posted,
- nor does an ftp site for it. Can anyone help me?
-
- Jeb
-
- --
- _____ _______ ______ _______ ____haga1774@utdallas.edu______
- _| | ___| __ \ | | | _ | ___| _ | | | In vino
- | | ___| __ < | | | |_ | | | veritas--
- |_______|_______|______/ |___|___|___|___|_______|___|___|__|____| --Pliny
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:16:24 -0700
- From: news.sprintlink.net!bethel.connected.com!hebron.connected.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: GPS Mapping software
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- About six months ago i downloaded some software from an FTP site (UCSD.EDU?)
- that allowed a DOS machine to graphically map position from either a GPS, Loran
- or Packet repeater network. I am not sure of all the details other than I
- managed to erase the software and now I would like to take a second look
- at it. If anyone could help me with the name of the software and or the FTP
- site to look for it I would appreciate it greatly
-
- Matt Wing
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 14:53:02 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX-202 Extended Rcv
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <310dio$gb6@booz.bah.com> k1zat@booz.bah.com (J. D. Delancy) writes:
- >Has anyone come up with a modification to the Radio Shack
- >HTX-202 for extended receive below 144 and above 148? If
- >so, how did you do it?
-
- There's only one way. First you gut out that nice narrow *amateur
- band only* circuit board, and then gut a handheld scanner and put
- those guts in the HTX-202 case.
-
- The HTX-202 is designed with a very narrow front end so that it
- performs properly on the ham bands, unlike most other amateur
- HTs that favor being scanners over being good communications
- radios. The HTX-202 is not intended as a wide band scanner, and
- attempts to make it one will only ruin it.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 18:33:37 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX-202 Extended Rcv
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul25.112413.2682@hnrc.tufts.edu> jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:
- >In article <310dio$gb6@booz.bah.com>, k1zat@booz.bah.com (J. D. Delancy) writes:
- >> Has anyone come up with a modification to the Radio Shack
- >> HTX-202 for extended receive below 144 and above 148? If
- >> so, how did you do it?
- >
- >Only one extended RX modification has been posted:
- >(1) Sell 202.
- >(2) Use proceeds towards the purchase of something else.
-
- The side effect of the mod, of course, is often increased susceptability
- to out-of-band IMD on receive.
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:40:00 -0500
- From: cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: HW-101 for sale
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Greetings! Sorry if this is a re-post, but we have new news software
- and I am not entirely sure that the previous post went through.
- Since my other heathkit sold in about an hour, I'm offering my other
- up for sale. It includes:
-
- Heathkit HW101 80-10m SSB/CW transceiver 100% funtional
- Optionnal 400 hz CW filter
- HP23 matching power supply
- HP13 DC power interface
-
- Astatic D-104 desk mike with pre-amp
- All manuals
-
- Best Offer
-
- 73 de Dave, n9uxu
- dave@flowserver.stem.com
- (415) 967-1451
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:45:02 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Mounting HT to Mountain Bike ???
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <kleite-240794211136@155.95.178.238> kleite@sentry.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Keith J. Leite) writes:
- >Hi,
- > And thanks for reading my post, I recently just bought a Mountain bike and
- >have been doing alot of back woods riding. I have not been carrying my HT,
- >because I wanted to figure out a way to mount it to the bike. I was
- >wondering if any of you out there have done this and if so if you could
- >shoot some idea's this way.
- >
- > I was thinking of something on the handle bars , I am using the Yaesu
- >FT-470. Is there some kinda bracket that can be attached ??? maybe with
- >some velcro ???
- >I think it would be a good idea to carry something into the woods just for
- >emergency sake. Thanks for any help.
-
- The jolting a bike frame gets from off road riding won't be good for
- the radio. I suggest you get a chest pouch for the radio and keep it
- on your body instead. Try to protect it when you fall. :-)
-
- Gary
-
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 17:59:52 GMT
- From: news.columbia.edu!merhaba.cc.columbia.edu!ad52@rutgers.edu
- Subject: Mounting HT to Mountain Bike ???
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Keith (and anyone else bicycle mobile):
-
- I ride a road bike, but find there's a considerable amount of vibration,
- even on smooth roads. I imagine there would be a lot more on a
- mountain bike. Also, I've fallen on my HT once while biking, so I
- decided to protect it more thoroughly. Basically, the way to get
- around the vibration problem is to put the HT on your body. I now
- use a leather tool holster (available from Sears for about $5) and
- clip the HT to my belt, inside the holster. There are also chest
- harnesses available, like the ones used by the Ski Patrol. Hook
- up your speaker/mic and an earphone (always leave one ear open when
- cycling!) and you should be set. Another alternative, which I use
- sometimes when touring, is to simply pack the radio away inside a
- pannier, away from the elements, and use it only when stopped.
-
- If you do decide to mount it on the bike, make sure your mounting
- system includes some serious shock absorption, like maybe a thick
- foam pad, under the HT. Otherwise you might shorten its life
- considerably. Enjoy.
-
- --Alan
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 21:06:20 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!nntp.msstate.edu!Ra.MsState.Edu!cll4@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: New General Pool for Autoexam
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have just completed converting the new General pool to work with Autoexam.
- Anyone who is interested should send me email, and I will send you the
- uuencoded file. If you would prefer plain-text, let me know.
-
-
- I also have the Novice and Technician pools that were renewed last year
- available.
-
-
- Thanks and 73
- Craig
-
- --
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Craig Lindsey - KC5AUG | My politics are simple: Always go right. If
- Internet: cll4@ra.msstate.edu| you go left, you can never go right, and if
- Bitnet: cll4@msstate.bitnet| you go right, you never go wrong. -Grizzard
- Office: Allen 38 |
- Office Phone : (601)325-8553 |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 1994 18:20:25 GMT
- From: news1.hh.ab.com!icd.ab.com!bjp@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Outgoing QSL Info Needed
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm a member of the ARRL and live in the 8th call district.
- How many cards can I send per entry and do I include any money?
-
- Please E-mail me at above address!!
-
-
- 73,
-
- Brian (N8RPA)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Jul 94 20:22:35 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: RS Freq Counter?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I never did laugh at the RS counter and I did own one for a short time. It had
- some good points, but I let mine go because of a couple of less desirable
- points.
-
- The frequency accuracy appeared to be within the published spec. But, what I
- didn't care for was the constantly rolling digits at low or no signal and the
- rather poor sensitivity. The size, although larger than the competitors, was
- reasonable and the fact that it operated OK off of nicad cells.
-
- Bottom line, I bought Star Tek and am now much happier!
-
- Hugh Wells, W6WTU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 11:07:16 PDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!sislnews.csc.ti.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: U.S. op in Canada? More ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul24.111547.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu>, <white@ccsua.ctstateu.edu>
- writes:
- >
- >
- > What about sales receipts for gear broungt into/out-of Canada? I've heard
- > that all gear must be accompanied by the original sales receipts. True??
- > Harry/N1QVE
- >
- Harry: I don't recall Canadian authorities asking for proof of
- purchase the three times I took gear into Canada, but be advised that
- upon returning to the U.S. customs might. If you are audited
- by Customs when returning to the U.S. they might ask you to
- prove that your foreign-manufactured equipment was indeed
- purchased in the U.S. You can use receipts or get a Custom's
- form before leaving the U.S.
-
- You can take amateur radio equipment into Canada with no
- trouble, usually. The gotcha is when the Customs person
- is unaware of the law. The ARRL can provide you with the
- law paragraph. I had to use it once when the Customs official
- saw my Yaesu box.
-
- Worry about cameras too.
-
- 73, Bob Winn, W5KNE, etc.
- w5kne@mcimail.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 12:41:09 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: W1AW Code Schedule
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- This sked is posted for the returning ham who asked about it, and for
- folks who could not find QST "down ta the Sevumlemum".
-
- Morse Code Transmissions
-
- Frequencies
- 1.818, 3.5815, 7.0475, 14.0475, 18.0975, 21.0675, 28.0675, 147.555 MHz
- Slow Code = practice sent at 5, 7.5, 10, 13, and 15 wpm
- Fast Code = preactice sent at 35, 30, 25, 20, 15, 13, 10 wpm
-
- Text is from the pages of QST. Source is given at the beginning of the
- practice session. Code bulletins are sent at 18 wpm.
-
- Sked is at the same LOCAL TIME throughout the year. Your time will change
- if your local time does not have seasonal adjustments. e.g EDT=UTC-4
-
- All times Eastern
- 9 AM Fast Code - Tuesday (T), Thursday (R)
- Slow Code - Wednesday (W), Friday (F)
- 10 AM Code Bulletin Daily
- 4 PM Fast Code - M, W, F
- Slow Code - Sunday (U), T, R, Saturday (S)
- 5 PM Code Bulletin Daily
- 7 PM Fast Code - U, T, R, S
- Slow Code - M, W, F
- 8 PM Code Bulletin Daily
- 10 PM Fast Code - M, W, F
- Slow Code - U, T, R, S
- 11 PM Code Bulletin Daily
-
- This material is derived from the August 1994 issue of QST, (c) 1994 ARRL
- I am responsible for transcription errors, but I was real careful, honest.
- --
- Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
- "This whole dot-dash concept sounds interesting, Mr. Vail. Why don't you let
- me look over your notes on the train to the Patent Office?" - S.F.B. Morse?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 19:44:20 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- Subject: Why is 1750Hz tone used in Europe?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <30vo14$s7b@news.iastate.edu> jdwhite@iastate.edu (Jason White) writes:
- > I'm simply curious as to why a 1750Hz tone is used to access European
- > repeaters.
-
- 1750 Hz is an easy frequency to hit by giving a short whistle into
- the mic (if you're talking about tone-burst). Some US repeaters used
- to require a brief whistle (or tone) to bring up the machine.
-
- NH6IL jeffrey@math.hawaii.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
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